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23 Mar 04 18:42I'm searching for a small (~.187 in OD) flexible coupling for a low-torque (~2 oz-in), high-speed (80,000 rpm) application in which the angle between the rotating shafts ranges from 0 deg. to 20 deg.
Of the flexible coupling options that I've explored so far (U-joint, ball, bellows, spring, jaw, Oldham, Schmidt, flex-shaft, etc.), there are many options of workable size which can handle the torque, but none that can come close to meeting the speed requirement even when run in-line, much less at 20 deg. angulation.
Does anyone know of a component which meets the specs?
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(Mechanical)
25 Mar 04 10:44There is no standard product available to do this duty.
Rexnord offer a metal disc type coupling from their BSD series that can cope with rpm, but it is limited to about 1 degree angular misalignment. They are quite specialised but they may be able to help.
The only couplings used for misalignments above 10 degrees are universal joints, and these normally can't handle the speed.
Goodluck
CK
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25 Mar 04 11:09CouplingKing - thanks for your feedback!
One thing I should add is that the duty cycle is intermittent - one minute on, one minute off, over approx. 60 min. for one "use". It has occurred to me that the vendors' published ratings may carry an assumption of continuous duty over longer periods. I've asked one vendor (whose products are rated to 20,000 rpm) to clarify the test criteria, but have not heard back yet.
Is there an applicable standard for rating the top speed of couplings?
(Mechanical)
26 Mar 04 04:02Catalogue ratings are based on an acceptable service life. Coupings are generally expected to outlast gearbox bearings, with the replacement of occasional wearing parts (e.g. rubber spiders in jaw couplings).The short service life will give you considerably more options for both speed and misalignment. If a metal disc coupling is misaligned beyond it's normal operating range, the discs take on an S shape when viewed from above. The high stress points are where the S shapes start and finish, this is also where the discs will flex during the rotation. Hence fatigue failure is the expected failure mode. With the short life time, you may get away with it, the manufacturer will have to advise you.Mayr make a disc coupling of a similar type, where the discs are Star shaped, allowing significantly more misalignment capability. I think they call it a DS-W. DS is the standard high performance metal disc coupling, I think the W variant offers bigger misalignment, but I am not sure about the speed. Their website is www.mayr.de and follow the links to the English language section.Hope it goes well.CK
(Mechanical)
26 Mar 04 15:59some maybe options
1. electric generator->electric motor power transfer
Coupling via wires (and suitable electronics?)
2. gear down the input rpm - go through a "regular" coupling and then gear up again
3. do gaseous couplings exist? This is how low rpm power is extracted from very high rpm jet turbines
4. Maybe a gaseous viscosity friction coupling - two impellers "connected" by gas friction using a bellows container enclosing the system.
5.magnetic coupling system?
(Mechanical)
30 Mar 04 22:09Amorrison4,
I like your magnetic coupling idea, but mass and size could be a problem.
A hex socket and hex ball ( on the end of a hex wrench) might work. Picture a socket head cap screw and a ball hex allen wrench, and a dry lub.
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1 Apr 04 04:29Just a stab in the dark, but how about a short lenth of flex cable ?
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1 Apr 04 08:10Because the dimensions are so small and the torque very low it is likely that something quite simple will work - the 20 deg angle is difficult however and the geometry of the axes intersection point will also be significant. A magnetic coupling is probably ruled out because the halves have to be in close proximity.
I would try a helical spring set up to tighten with rotation. It may be a better option than the flex cable suggested which is also worth considering. Although the speed is high the very small diameter means that centrifugal forces will not be great. You will need a bit of luck to avoid instability problems. On that scale it should not be an expensive exercise to test various options on a simple rig. I much doubt that you will find a stock design to do the job.
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In the power transmission field, there are many different types of couplings that can be used in order to transfer power from the gear side to the machine. Taking into consideration that each specific application has its own features, it is extremely important to analyse and check what characteristics should our coupling have, to ensure a long-life cycle and a successful performance of our machinery.
We should take into account the following factors in the coupling selection process:
It is important to analyse the area, the temperature where the coupling is going to be exposed, and also if the device is going to be in a corrosive environment or not.
The space might be an issue when placing the coupling. In some applications there is a limited or a difficult access to locate the coupling. Therefore, this is also another key aspect to take into consideration for the coupling selection.
The type of shafts should be checked, as well as the diameter and the length.
As an example; considering the access, space required, and the shaft types, we have to analyse what size would apply best to our installation from our range of products.
The operator should check what types of misalignments should be corrected; parallel, torsional, axial, angular or lateral.
The main target consists on understanding what kind of performance we want to have with our coupling; high torque, high speed, repeatability or high level of flexibility and cushioning.
Decide which type of coupling will be most appropriate depending on the above aspects.
In order to determine the type of coupling to be used the following formula should be applied:
M = N hp/ n. . K
M = N kW/ n. . k
M = Nominal torque
N = Driving-motor power (CV or KW)
n = Minimum speed of the connected axles (rpm)
k = Multiplying co-efficient
The value obtained on applying the formula should be less or equal than the indicated in the tables of sizes and powers that refer to the corresponding coupling in the column nominal torque.
k = Multiplying co-efficientElectric motorNotes:
The values indicated in the above table are by no means applicable to every case. If, for example, one of the machines to be coupled displays such a degree of irregularity that it is judged necessary to carry-out technical investigations of the oscillations, then it is recommended to proceed to the selection of the multiplying co-efficient using the enclosed questionnaire.
K-coefficient calculation guidance for different groups of machines.
The elevator bucket is driven by a motor of 16 kW; n=1.450 rpm., by means of a reducer whose outlet axle rotates at a speed of n= 180 rpm. The motor and reducer are protected by a UNE-FLEX flexible axle coupling.
1. COUPLING BETWEEN MOTOR AND REDUCER
N = 16 kW
n = rpm
M = NKw/n. . k
Elevator buckets figure in group 2 of the classification. Under variable load machinery. The multiplying co-efficient k = 1,5 figures in the k value table under heading 2 and in the classification of machines driven by electric motor.
M = 16/ x x 1.5 = 158.07 Nm
Then, according to the power table. the appropriate coupling for a torque of 158 Nm. is model M-5.
2. COUPLING BETWEEN REDUCER AND ELEVATOR, BUCKET MECHANISM
N = 16 kW
n = 180 rpm
M = NKw/n. . k
M = 16/180 x x 1.5 = Nm
Then, according to the power table, the appropriate coupling for a torque of Nm is the model M-9.
Note: to carry out the correct selection of a coupling, an indication of power and speed is generally sufficient. However, its better to have the following information as well:
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