Sep. 30, 2024
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Given the variety of goods available on the market today that offer moisture management in some form, the best option for the job may not always be obvious. There are a few things to think about while selecting these kinds of products: How does a waterproofing membrane vs. moisture barrier differ? What materials are they each made of? What could make you choose one over the other? The simple answer is that it will vary somewhat from job to job. However, the following are some common points you can keep in mind.
Waterproofing only prevents liquid water from flowing from one area to another; it does not entirely deter water in a vapor state (though it can slow it down).
Moisture barriers and waterproofing are two distinct types of goods with quite different uses. To keep water from getting into a particular space, like a shower pan, you would employ a waterproofing membrane.
Moisture-reduction barriers manage moisture in a state of vapor. These membranes essentially prevent any vapors from passing through within the limitations of the particular product. They do so by filling the pores of the substrate, generally with epoxy or a polymer. These materials are ideal for treating high-moisture slabs or areas where there is a possibility of future high-moisture conditions.
Waterproofing membranes generally consist of a liquid rubber-like substance that is applied like regular wall paint. Although roller-applied membranes are the most prevalent, there are additional varieties that require reinforcing fabrics and meshes or application using a trowel rather than a roller. For instance, the HLM Roller 5G is a moisture-curing, single-component polyurethane elastomeric waterproofing membrane that can be rolled on surfaces. It is made for exterior, below-grade, or between-slab applications.
Moisture-reduction membranes come in a wide range of compositions, but some of the more common forms include epoxy, polyurethane, and polymer-based. Epoxy does a fantastic job at sealing open holes in concrete and creating a solid barrier to guard against the transmission of vapor.
However, epoxies can be a little challenging to deal with, and the majority of these membranes will have moisture vapor emission limits. This brings us to other products, such as ones that use polyurethane. Polyurethanes are pre-mixed and simple to apply with a paint roller, saving time and hassle. Lastly, polymer-based moisture-reduction membranes are widely accessible, affordable, and simple to install. One excellent option is our TREMproof 250GC waterproofing membrane. This is a high-solids, VOC-compliant, rapid-curing modified polyurethane waterproofing membrane. It is easy to apply on damp concrete, which reduces the delays related to rain or other moisture sources.
How do you decide, then? Determine whether you want to prevent water or water vapor infiltration. A waterproofing membrane is recommended whenever you need to prevent water from flowing from one place to another, such as when building a basin to contain water within a fountain. A moisture-reduction barrier will be the best option if you need to lay solid sheet vinyl over a high-moisture concrete surface.
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Vapor barrier membrane vs. waterproofing membrane
I hope this is the right forum for this question. I'm just a homeowner, not a pro, but I was advised in a previous thread that the topic was more appropriate here than at the Tile Forum/Advice board.
I'm looking at a steam shower project, to be professionally installed, and I have been discussing possible installation approaches with my tile contractor. We are considering doing SR614 with a full cement mortar bed rather than the CBU, but we are still considering membrane choices. One question I have is in regards to the vapor barrier membrane and waterproofing membrane.
One possibility is TEC Triple Flex or HydraFlex. I've called TEC, and the rep told me that both Triple Flex and HydraFlex are suitable membranes for SR614 -- but as waterproofing membranes only. They are not vapor barrier membranes. However, that is said to be fine because SR614 calls for a waterproofing membrane, not a vapor barrier membrane. The rep said that only SR613 called for a vapor barrier membrane.
Is that the understanding for people here as well? I'm having difficulty understanding why SR613 would require a vapor barrier membrane but not SR614. For that matter, I don't understand why insulation is called for in front of the vapor barrier membrane in SR613 but there isn't a similar insulation in the diagram for SR614.
The issue of vapor vs. waterproofing membrane is particularly relevant for HydraFlex. From the data sheet, Triple Flex appears to have a permeance of < 1 perm, but there is no rating for HydraFlex. I asked about that and was told that HydraFlex does let at least some vapor through. That is why HydraFlex can be used on green concrete. Nevertheless, the rep recommended HydraFlex over Triple Flex due to easier installation (and shorter cure time).
TEC says that both Triple Flex and HydraFlex are suitable waterproofing membranes for SR614 and that SR614 does not require a vapor barrier membrane. So would people here feel comfortable using HydraFlex (or Triple Flex) as the membrane in method SR614?
On another subject, my installer also suggested Protecto Wrap. Does anyone have experience with Protecto Wrap in this application? (Yes, I already know about Kerdi and NobleSeal TS.)
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